Kzinti Empire - offical empire thread

Published on November 15, 2007 By KzintiPatriarch In Metaverse

You have dared to enter the lair of the most ferocious predators in the galaxy!

It is the ulitmate destiny of the Kzinti to conquer the other civilizations of the galaxy, subjugate and enslave any who may prove useful to us, and devour the rest. The Fanged God has ordained that this is how it will be.

In just 26 octals of days (7 months or so...Kzinti count in base 8), the Kzinti Empire rose from obscurity, to #1 on the Metaverse. With the blessings of the Fanged God, we have remained dominant for 100s more octals of days since that auspicious day. We leapt past the other empires, and our mighty domain now encompasses over 32 million more light years than the second most powerful empire. The most recent Galactic Map data shows that we have subjugated over 45% of the galaxy. Many warriors from the old and dying empires have joined us, to avoid being eaten along with the rest. We hunger to establish indefinite supremacy over all the inferior sentient species...

We have also been #1 on the AltMeta for over 3 years running. The Empire grows more powerful with each passing day as new conquests are won, and more warriors join us in our inevitable rise to rule the galaxy!

The Kzinti are a species of bipedal space-faring feline predators, who love nothing more than conquest and battle. Created by sci-fi writer Larry Niven, the Kzinti have had many stories written about them, most notably in the Man-Kzin Wars series of books. They have also shown up in the Star Trek universe, and a number of other realities.

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"Kzinti flesh has a very strong and pungent taste. The weak among us are devoured by their litter-mates within a few moons of birthing. Only the swiftest and most ferocious of us survive to their first naming-day. Those not fit to survive will never live to perpetuate their inferior bloodlines. This is the natural law of the galaxy." - Kzinti Warrior

"The meaning of life is the hot blood of your prey on your tongue, the meat that rends beneath your teeth, the corpse of your enemy left in the sun for the carrion eaters to finish, your defeated foe groveling in submission before you. That is what life is. We are the Kzinti, and we stronger, swifter, wiser, and more ferocious than any other race ever was or will be." - Kzinti philosopher

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If your claws can grasp it, then it is rightfully yours. - Kzinti proverb

A salute to all those heroic t'kzintar who have made this empire a resounding success. Our conquests continue and the galaxy will never know peace!

Join the Kzinti in our quest for galactic dominance, or become our prey…

Click here to join the Kzinti Empire!

Click here to visit our forums at the Galactic Core

Click here to download the Kzinti ship and race mod from the Library

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Sentient species taste better...

Comments (Page 22)

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Cumberberg

on Mar 12, 2008

Interesting... I've been trying to play on Obscene because I thought the boost to the score would be worth it. Maybe I'm overestimating the bump in points for playing on a higher difficulty level?

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KzintiPatriarch

on Mar 12, 2008

I think the score differential from one difficulty level to the next is minimal, but I dont have any hard facts to back that up. I just remember seeing it discussed here and there. With the forum search function not working correctly, its impossible to look around for the info. Maybe the wiki has some info on the subject?

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gallagher118

on Mar 13, 2008

Well I tend to think unless you get a great start at obscene, you tend to get bogged down and from that alone your score will suffer.

Now, if that hit is bigger than the scoring difference from maso to obscene is hard to say.

What is easy to say, is that maso is still fun for me, while obscene is just tedious. (like suicidal)

The only good thing about obscene is that it's harder early/mid game. If only the AI would use it's advantages correctly. If it did, there'd be no way to win with all those bonuses...

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KzintiPatriarch

on Mar 13, 2008

A great welcome to our newest member, Windrew13... May you always find interesting and tasty prey!

Well I tend to think unless you get a great start at obscene, you tend to get bogged down and from that alone your score will suffer.Now, if that hit is bigger than the scoring difference from maso to obscene is hard to say.What is easy to say, is that maso is still fun for me, while obscene is just tedious. (like suicidal)The only good thing about obscene is that it's harder early/mid game. If only the AI would use it's advantages correctly. If it did, there'd be no way to win with all those bonuses...

I looked around a bit and couldnt find specific info on the scoring differential between difficulty levels. I think your opinion is correct in that if the micromanagement is too tedious, its not worth it, unless you are totally going for just points. I try to strike a balance between points-grinding and fun, so I dont get nearly the scores I could if I used every trick in the book. I think if I did, I would just get sick of it pretty quickly.

My Wednesday night RPG group didnt meet last night as we usually do, so I used my unexpected free-time well and finished up my huge game. Got a new personal high score of 171,850!

I had everyone conquered by early year 7, but extended it to earn about 40k more points.

Sentient species taste better...

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Cumberberg

on Mar 13, 2008

Wow, KP! That's an eye-popping score!

Congratulations! Your Kzinti will be fat and happy feasting on the corpses of your enemies.

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KzintiPatriarch

on Mar 13, 2008

Wow, KP! That's an eye-popping score! Congratulations! Your Kzinti will be fat and happy feasting on the corpses of your enemies.

Thanks! Countless slaves were captured, and my t'kzintar are indeed well-fed today.

They are enjoying the spoils of war captured from the inferior species that we defeated! Many of the greatest Heroes from this glorious victory were granted planetary systems as their own personal fiefdoms.

This bumps up my Hraak-Riit character from 41st to 26th in the standings. I'm getting closer to my goal of matching Gallagher's achievment of having all 3 characters in the top 25.

When I get some more RAM, I plan to try a gigantic map and shoot for maybe a 400k game.

Sentient species taste better...

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KzintiPatriarch

on Mar 13, 2008

This thread may shed some light on the scoring question you had Cumberberg:

https://forums.galciv2.com/post.aspx?postid=177533

Sentient species taste better...

323

gallagher118

on Mar 14, 2008

I'm curious KP, your 170 score, did you milk that at all, or did it just go long?

I've had a few games I milked maybe 6-12 months, but I havent' tried going further than that.

I'm curious if you did extend it, how do you draw the line?

My theory on that is that if the game is over ~4 years, you're probably better off extending it to 6-7 years. Which is sad. To me, finishing a game fast should always be better.

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KzintiPatriarch

on Mar 14, 2008

Congrats today to Cumberberg for posting his first 0-year wins!

Congrats also to TorontoRock for submitting another huge victory, this time 182k! I'll try to out-do that with my next huge game.

He also pumped out a few more 0-year wins as well.

One more piece of info about the 0-year wins that my be helpful. The way the Metaverse scoring works, if you have submitted high-scoring games, and then submit lower-scoring games (as with the 0-year wins), your point gain to your MV score will be pretty minimal for the lower-scoring ones. One way to get around this is to designate different characters for different sizes/scores of games. So having one character for mega-scores and one for 0-year games works well to maximize points-socring potential.

I'm curious KP, your 170 score, did you milk that at all, or did it just go long?I've had a few games I milked maybe 6-12 months, but I havent' tried going further than that. I'm curious if you did extend it, how do you draw the line?My theory on that is that if the game is over ~4 years, you're probably better off extending it to 6-7 years. Which is sad. To me, finishing a game fast should always be better.

I definitely milked it. I could have won by year 7, but in order to build up an even more gargantuan military, finish my military starbase array, and let my population max-out on all my planets, I extended it. Each year that I extended it, I saved on Dec 15th, then wiped out the last enemy planet. Then I would check my score, and how much it had increased from the previous year. If it was still a sizable gain, I'd reload and do another year. Once the point gain became small enough as to not be very significant, thats when I decided to end the game. This is the least interesting/fun part of the game, but at least it goes quickly, because aside from moving new ships to the MSBA, I'm really doing little else other than just hitting end turn. I always end on Dec 22nd, to take full advantage of any points gain for that year. I'm not that great at playing for speed, so my games tend to be longer than they should.

Sentient species taste better...

325

MottiKhan

on Mar 14, 2008

A little update to my gigantic map game in DL...

As planned, my not colonizing any planets propelled me to the #1 spot in all catagories after the first attack. After the war, I built 5 colonizers to take the remaining empty planets. The AIs on all sides were left in agony on their few smoking hulk planets.

The war lasted quite some time though. My "flea" ships were very effective in capturing and dispatching the enemy. I also built medium attack ships and fast transports to slingshot across the map with the aid of my starbase array, built in year 1. It's approaching the end of year 2 and I have about 13,000 ships bogging the game down. Losing their way with the autopilot bug and generally soaking up any processor power that my machine can cough up. My planets are still building more ships to add to the meyham. The enemy is down to around 10 ships left, so no threat there. I still need to finish building up my planets and economy before I'm done with this one.

I only have time to get anywhere from one to three turns per day on this game now. Other issues are taking my attention away from it. I'll get back to it before too much longer though.

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KzintiPatriarch

on Mar 14, 2008

Sounds like an epic game Motti! My system would roll over and give up the ghost before I completed one turn of a game like that.

I keep intending to get more RAM, but just havent got off my butt to do it. Your strategies are certainly far advanced compared to mine. If only I had more patience for micromanagement... What's your estimate of the score from a game like this?

Sentient species taste better...

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MottiKhan

on Mar 14, 2008

I've tested it and should be on track for a 500k game. If I ended it now, I'd pull in just over 300k. Not bad for year 2 without any enhancing events. If I'm lucky, I'll see an influence or economy event soon. Maybe both. One can hope.

I don't have the patience for extreme micromanagement like Mumblefratz and a select few others, but it'll still pull in some decent points. Hopefully enough to get me into the top 25.

This is my first gigantic map, so my estimates might be a little off. I'm basing them on what I would expect from a medium map of similar strategy.

It's an "all labs" start with a switch to "all factories" mid game. It'll change to "all econ" for the final stage. Fairly routine stuff, but on a bigger scale.

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KzintiPatriarch

on Mar 15, 2008

Rock-on Motti. Mioawara Tomokato will be a great Hero in no time!

We have two new members to greet today....a great welcome to Shindia and Sepsoccerplaya!

Over the last couple days the Empire has gained over 200k points. We are staying well ahead of the Diplomats, and lengthening our lead.

Sentient species taste better...

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KzintiPatriarch

on Mar 17, 2008

I see that more Kzinti have started using the 0-year win strategy to score some quick points....nice job! For those of you unfamiliar with this, it is a way to achieve a win in year 0 on any difficulty level, on a tiny map. Games are very quick (mere minutes), and have the potential to earn you upwards of 20k points.

For details, check out the thread "MVL Round 6", pages 13-15, and you will find detailed information on how to achieve such wins. These strategies are from the elite players of the game.

We're nearly 1.5 million points ahead of the Diplomats now, and steadily increasing our lead.

I've got another huge-map game in the works, which I hope to finish by next weekend, and to also beat my personal high score!

Sentient species taste better...

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TorontoRock

on Mar 17, 2008

I used the 0-year win strategy to get the 16 000 points or so that I needed to break into the top 25 and get my top 25 medal. I've noticed that one guy (centurion neilo) has used 0-year wins almost exclusively to break into the top-25 as well and get his 100 victory medal. I wonder if you could break into the top 25 by JUST playing 0-year victory games? Not very satisfying I'm sure but doable?

Quick question. Does anyone know if the next victory medal after 100 wins is when you hit 200 wins? I'll probably be getting my 100 victory medal pretty soon since I'll be playing a few 0-year games here and there between my "real" games to rack up quick wins for the medal and was wondering what to expect for the next medal.

Hope all is well with everyone.

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